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10:44 pm
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Drama. Speaking of drama. Here's the welcome I got on #CanadianFurs today.
...and you wonder why you keep getting banned on Ontario Furries, Shane.
?07[17:02] * Pak_Pak waves to dan dan ?13[17:02] * Pak_Pak resumes his hunt and sighs happily as his feet get woolf socks on ?13[17:03] * +Shane shakes his head as the evil one rears it's ugly head. ?13[17:04] * +Shane snuggles with Pak, knowing he's safe from a certain furson's tyranny and crap. [17:04] id rather a decent bloody snowstorm reared its head.. i worry summer is going to be a brutal sucker ?07[17:05] <+Shane> Heh, I forgot I have dan on ignore on IRc and can't hear him no matter what I say. Bleh. ?09[17:05] * Shane was kicked by DanSkunk (DanSkunk?) ?13[17:05] * Pak_Pak blinks ?09[17:05] * Shane (~woof@dsl-173-206-227-242.tor.primus.ca) has joined #CanadianFurs ?09[17:05] * ChanServ sets mode: +v Shane [17:05] ... [17:05] <+mimiPlushie> wtf? [17:05] <+Shane> bad move ?13[17:05] * +mimiPlushie reads. ?11[17:05] <%DanSkunk> Drop it. [17:05] can you really kick people for ignoring you? :P [17:06] YOu can kick them for being an asshole [17:06] sorry, I already hit enter by the time you said "drop it" :P ?11[17:06] <%DanSkunk> No, for trying to start a pile of drama. [17:06] <+Shane> tsk tsk..not nice ?07[17:06] <+mimiPlushie> Sorry, I don't side with you dan. [17:06] <+mimiPlushie> Bad move. [17:06] <+mimiPlushie> Kicks start drama. GTFO. [17:06] well, this aint gonna end well [17:06] bad and stange move.. the best move is not to play.. [17:06] So uh, have fun! [17:06] <+mimiPlushie> Unnesessary kicks that is. GTFO. ?09[17:06] * Husk3h (~husk3h@fur-5DCAE670.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has left #CanadianFurs [17:06] <+Shane> Yep. ?13[17:07] * bennerman facepaws [17:07] <+Shane> He will realise this isn't his IRc channel and he doesn't hold power here. ?12[17:07] * Timer 1 activated ?09[17:07] * DanSkunk sets mode: +b *!*@dsl-173-206-227-242.tor.primus.ca ?12[17:07] * Timer 1 halted ?09[17:07] * Shane was kicked by DanSkunk (DanSkunk?) ?07[17:07] <+mimiPlushie> Dan, reverse this now. [17:07] * sigh* ?11[17:08] <%DanSkunk> No. [17:08] <+mimiPlushie> This is NOT your channel. [17:08] <+mimiPlushie> Your channel is 2 tabs over. [17:08] normally, I would butt in, but I am going to have a relapse if I get stressed again ?09[17:08] * Scani sets mode: -b *!*@dsl-173-206-227-242.tor.primus.ca ?11[17:08] <%DanSkunk> Yes, but I'm a moderator here. [17:08] <+mimiPlushie> Doesn't matter. [17:08] as strnage as it is, are we feeling that worried you need to kick and ban over * you are a meanie* comment? ?09[17:08] * Shane (~woof@dsl-173-206-227-242.tor.primus.ca) has joined #CanadianFurs ?09[17:08] * ChanServ sets mode: +v Shane ?11[17:08] <%DanSkunk> Fine, Scani.
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03:45 pm
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Debate I guess I won that debate. :)
And bonus, I got him to leave the meet too. :D
Goodbye, loser. ;)
Good bye Dan.
Stay in your own state of mind all you want.
I have had enough.
Do not email me, call me, or speak to me at any furry thing or if you come to the building.
You will not see me at any of the Islington furmeets either if your involved or going.
Take this as you want, but you obviously won't speak to anyone logically anymore.
To everyone else. If you want to chat, you know where I am.
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03:03 am
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Z-z-z-z-z
*skunk curled up under blankets sleeping*
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01:35 am
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MSN Contact list full Apparently you can only have 1024 people in your contact list... And mine is full again. :(
Guess I'll have to prune out some inactive ones again. :(
Started feeling depressed and anxious and really weak when I was at Xion's last night so I came home, felt better after a little food.
Funny, considering I've havn't been anxious or depressed for a long time, but oh well. Probably from the fatigue. I get that periodically.
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11:02 pm
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Zoophilia ( stuff )
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10:55 pm
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Furnal Equinox Just something I was writing on a forum:
Yes, it is *my* trust, but I'm a part of the community am I not? Are you trying to argue that my support is not important?
I have never been against the event. When did I ever say we shouldn't have a convention in Toronto? I was working on it for almost 2 years. I'm against how the organizers are doing things and behaving to people. There's a big difference between disagreeing with how to do something and disagreeing that it should be done at all.
For example, there are a lot of people that disagree with how this web site is done, but they all agree that it should exist.
My commitment to the convention should never be in question. It's only my commitment to the ideas of some of the organizers that's in question. You're infering that because I disagree with how some things are done, I'm against the whole event. You need to learn to distinguish between the two.
I agree that at some point, it became evident that things needed to change, but I never had the entire committee against me being there; we had people deciding to do things on their own without telling anyone, blamming others for their mistakes, being rude to the public, the committee wasn't able to make clear decisions, the committee wasn't addressing issues that were brought up, even after repeated inquiries.
Because of that, I addressed those issues, privately to the committee--but instead of addressing them and finding solutions to them, I came back from a camping trip to find that while I was away, the people causing those issues had a meeting, voted out me and 2 of my friends, and banned me from being staff. All without giving us the courtesy of letting us be present to defend ourselves, and without a proper quorum present even.
That is not how you build a team, that's a few people being offended that someone criticized them and deciding to get rid of people when they weren't there. A well run committee, doesn't need everyone on it to agree with each other, or even like each other.
No surprise the organisation continues suffering from the same disfuntions. Committee members are still being rude to the public and doing things on their own without consulting the committee. I ask simple inquiries here and get conflicting responses from different committee members.
I'm sure Pakesh didn't consult with the committee before implying I was cowardly for not posting on torfurs.com and furnalequinox.com and say I never posted there when other committee members knew I did and even replied to my posts there. He's obviously not paying much attention to what's going on either.
You never did a budget, you don't know the difference between board members and committee members, you don't know how to define the difference between staff and volunteers.
I gave you a huge spreadsheet showing the attendance of different furry conventions that were started recently, their admission rates, and the population of the area they were in.
I even gave estimates of attendance of different events held at different sized conventions I'd been to to estimate what space was needed.
Obviously all that information was ignored, as in order to break even and fill the space you have, you'll have to do nearly twice as well at attracting attendees than any other first year convention ever has, including FA:U. And that's with charging as much as anthrocon per day, and the same as other Canadian conventions charge for 3 day events when yours is only 2.
"Put away the wrecking ball." I'm not trying to wreck anything. I'm trying to get you to get your shit together so you don't fail and waste everyone's time and money and embarass the community.
The first event you did, I begged you to get someone experienced to help you, you refused, and ended up being banned, paying piles of money for the damage you didn't prevent and had to cancel the next event you were planning.
Your response was to try and blame someone else for it. You're not going to learn to improve things by always blaming someone else when things go wrong.
And you don't need to talk to me about doing things in a timely fashion. I never missed any deadlines. In fact, the only reason you're doing an event this year is that I convinced you to do so after it was already decided that we'd wait 'till 2011.
After I managed to organize our first meeting and we elected a chair, we basically sat on our tails for 2 months doing nothing before Sparrow took the initiative to get us working on things. Oh, you voted him out too.
"open to new ideas" Yeah, my tail you're open to new ideas. You've been systematically rejecting anything that doesn't agree with how you want things.
Of course, that doesn't really surprise me from you. The last time I decided to give you any power, I gave you #toronto-furry and the moment one person decided to disagree with someone on #torfur, against everyone's wishes, you deleted the entire access list for a few weeks and only put it back after everyone was harassing you over it and demanding you give the channel back to me--then you had some kind of mental break down and gave the channel to someone else, who did the same thing. You basically destroyed the channel and we had to create a new one.
History shows as much as you talk about caring for what the community wants, you're quick to ignore them the moment you disagree.
Apparently you're following that same pattern with Furnal Equinox as well, and after I decided to give you another chance and suggested you be involved. People are already talking about creating another one next year if this one fails.
If you really want my support, you're going to do a lot better than making excuses for your previous actions and insinuating that I'm cowardly and unimportant and against the convetion and can't work well with others.
If you're willing to take responsibility for your mistakes and make amends, learn to work together with people, and learn how to organize things, I'm certainly willing to give it to you and do everything I can to help. I'm not one to hold grudges over things that happened in the past, but untill then, don't expect my to have my support and don't expect me to have any sympathy when you screw things up more.
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12:32 pm
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Re: Canada 2010 - Very Well Put Message I got in my email.
Actually, it was written in French first, and adapted to English. The English version has little to do with the French one. And English was brought here by immigrants, and they certainly didn't have a problem with imposing their language and lifestyle on the aboriginals. The fact that the letter is written in English and not Cree makes it hypocritical. That said, singing the national anthem in Hindi, which isn't even an official language, doesn't represent Canada at all. :/
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If you agree please give wide distribution Subject: Canada 2010 - Very Well Put Enough is enough - glad that man took a stand! WAY TO GO CANADA !!! Our National Anthem - at the 2010 Vancouver Olympics Please read and forward to as many Canadians you can think of - thank you!
WE ARE PROUD CANADIANS Bruce Allen is on the 2010 Vancouver Olympic Committee and new Canadians (specifically Hindi's/Indian's) want him fired for his recent comments outlined below: “I am sorry, but after hearing they want to sing the National Anthem in Hindi at the 2010 Olympics- enough is enough. Nowhere or at no other time in our Nation's history, did they sing it in Italian, Japanese, Polish, Irish (Celtic), German, Portuguese, Greek, or any other language because of immigration. It was written in English, adapted into French, and should be sung word for word the way it was written. "
The news broadcasts even gave the Hindi version translation - which was not even close to our National Anthem. I am not the least bit sorry if this offends ANYONE, this is MY COUNTRY; My Grand Dad served in the military, other family members also served, as well as my wife & I served a combined total of 56 years between us. We made many sacrifices for our country and do not feel we should feel obligated to allow invited people we've welcomed with open arms to influence & change our society to better resemble the one they chose to leave to come here!!! - IF YOU AGREE ABOUT THIS GREAT COUNTRY, SPEAK UP BEFORE IT’S TOO LATE -- Please pass this along. I am not against immigration. In fact I believe we need more, my ancestors were immigrants -- just come through like everyone else. Get a sponsor; a place to lay your head; have a job; pay your taxes, live by the Rules AND LEARN THE LANGUAGE as all other immigrants have in the past -- and LONG LIVE CANADA!'
It's time we all get behind Bruce Allen, and scrap this Political Correctness His comments were anything but racist, however, there are far too many overly sensitive 'New Canadians' that are attempting to change everything we hold dear.
ARE you PART OF THE PROBLEM?? Think about this: If you don't want to forward this for fear of offending someone, will we still be the Country of Choice and still be CANADA if we continue to make the changes forced on us by the people from other countries who have come to live in CANADA because it is the Country of Choice??????
Think about it!
IMMIGRANTS, NOT CANADIAN'S, MUST ADAPT.
It's Time for CANADIANS to speak up. If you agree? Pass this along; If you don't agree? Delete it and reap what you sow because of your complacency!
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02:19 am
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The Toronto Furry Con Saga: Part 9 The Toronto Furry Con Saga: Part 9
http://community.livejournal.com/furrydrama_2/100001.html
Heh. Probably yes and no. I usually say something that pisses off both sides after a rift is already there so it kinda looks like I'm involved.
Got more important things to do than trying to heal up rifts in torfur lately. They never heal and you just get everyone hating you and get driven batshit insane trying.
There's all these petty arguments and stuff going back long before I was around that have people still hating each other now, some over a decade later. You're involved in a few of those yourself from before my time.
The culture here is if you have a problem with someone, you stay away from them and never say anything bad about anyone, ever, in public or private--unless the person you're talking about isn't there and won't hear it.
So there's really no way to heal any rifts and they're encouraged to keep going by all the people having different versions of the story and no way to figure out the truth.
Why is this? I don't really know for sure:
Maybe torfur came together as a group of people that were rejected elsewhere in society and wanted somewhere to belong and be accepted--which sounds noble enough.
Maybe it goes wrong when people feel they need to be accepted no matter what and have such fragile egos from years of rejection they can't handle any kind of criticism at all. That explains not being able to say anything bad about anyone.
Maybe people are too proud... or alternately too pussy to confront anyone they actually have a problem with and find it easier to stay away from them and bitch about them behind their backs than actually confront someone over a problem for fear of offending that fragile ego of theirs.
Of course not everyone can get everyone paying attention to them and stroking their egos all the time, so whenever something good comes up, they fight over credit and controll so they can get the attention it affords. That explains so many petty arguments causing rifts.
Who knows.
I just wish people would show a little more humility and a little more courage and talk about their problems with each other and compromise to find solutions.
Seriously would be a lot more enjoyable if people just enjoyed being furry together and treated each other as equals instead of trying to be better and fighting over shit.
...course no other group of people has every achieved that, so oh well. :P
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09:07 pm
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Staff Registration for Anthrocon Yay, registered as staff for Anthrocon today!
Yay fun!
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01:17 pm
[Link] | Had lots of fun at Hypr's furries night out. :)
We basically just met at Union Station and wandered around downtown for a bit taking the subway from place to place, but I had a good time. :)
Also. Zombieland is a pretty awesome movie. I watched it on Ninja Video last night. :)
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12:25 pm
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The Hangover Was up 'till 4am last night--probably from drinking coke again. Every time I do that, I end up messing up my sleep. I should probably stop doing that and stick to water.
It's also cheaper.
Ended up watching a movie online. The Hangover--which was pretty good.
I dreamt last night that Midwest Furfest had more attendees than Anthrocon--which seems rather unlikely, but that's how my dream went.
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08:58 pm
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Xion's birthday Was Xion's birthday today, so I went out with him and bought him and his mom dinner and bought him a game. :)
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10:57 am
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Last night last night i dreamed I left a friend's garage open and when I left for a minute and came back, my bicycle and some of his were stolen.
I found the person that stole them and got the money he was paid for them and he told me where they were, but then he told the person I was coming.
I woke up really angry and frustrated and went back to bed.
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04:55 pm
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Skunk Saw a skunk cross the road in front of me as I walked home on Saturday night.
Saw the same one in my dream too. I was walking through a forest in the early evening, leaves on the ground, alongside a hill with rocky outcrops and saw him there. Rolled down the hill and on top of him by he was ok.
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02:14 pm
[Link] | Been kinda browsing around LJ a lot the last couple days. Used to be here more and thought I'd check things out again. :)
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03:54 am
[Link] | Just up late for no reason browsing through LJ entries. *shrugs*
Had some fun at Dave & Busters with Lawrence, Stew, and Pantheris tonight. :)
Probably spent a little more money that I should have, but it was fun and I ended up bringing a couple mugs home with me from the arcade.
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01:07 am
[Link] | Went to the dentist and got that broken filling filled, finally. No more food getting stuck there and hurting and having to find a toothpic. :)
Then decided to walk to the theatre to meet Zerrif there at 6:30 and on the way, I saw a coyote. :D Never seen one before. :)
Then I stepped on some ice cream container and sprayed icky wite stuff all over myself. :s I wiped off what I could and on some grass then rinsed more off in a puddle. :( I couldn't phone to get a ride home to change, cause I had no change for the phone and didn't bring my cell phone with me and didn't want to miss the movie, so I walked to a creek to rince it all off. In the cold water. :s
I waited a couple hours for my friend to show at the movie but he didn't. :s So I walked home.
Got there and after a little while, found out I went to the theatre 2 hours early and missed him.
After I was there a while, my mom said another friend came looking for me, and I remembered I didn't make any plans for how to meet him. :s
So I walked to the next city and back, and got all messy and wet, and missed the movie, and missed both friends.
Only thing I got right was seeing the dentist. And seeing the coyote.
REally really sorry for missing you two. I really should have brought my phone so I could have contacted you both.
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02:24 pm
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Why I get a cold again? I just got rid of one. :( *coughs*
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09:03 am
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Oshawa Furmeet Good turn out last night.
It was Familiar's birthday, so I took his bill for him.
We also had Alder, Till, Aurum, Sarah, and Forail show.
I had a great time. We had some drinks and talked, then went upstairs and played pool for a while. :)
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07:23 pm
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Cottage. Heading to the cottage for the weekend, see everyfur when I'm back. :D
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